Newsgroups: alt.ufo.reports,alt.astronomy From: R Kym Horsell Subject: a series of remarkable coincidences OK. You know me. Just can't let anything go. The Daily Mail published something in the past 24 hrs on the Space Force's latest report on the objects they are tracking for various reasons in the space between the earth and the moon (and elsewhere). I spotted a neat plot in the newspaper article that I digitised and fed into my AI programs, as you do. And a few alarm bells went off. The first curve it looked at was the "total number of objects" in the Fig 3 plot of the report at . The first question it asked itself (having experience with this kind of thing over the past 3-4 years) was -- are there any planets or asteroids that pass by earth that may somehow "be responsible for" the accumulation of "space junk" the US Space Force is seeing. If you look at the Figure (the red line) you see there are several gentle rises, but also some quite sudden jerks upward. We might suspect some of the jerks are related to co-ordinated space missions for something-or-other (certainly putting up coms sats happens in bursts) but some of them may be related to rocks or whatever that are riding along with some comet, asteroid or maybe even planet that are somehow finding their way over to our part of the solar system every time the relevant asteroid (or whatever) comes close enough to earth. So asteroids and comets get mighty mighty close. So the AI's have a few 100 objects in their database and they can compare the distance between those objects and the earth day by dat from 1950 to the present, if needs be. And then compare that curve with the curve of new satellites going up there into the big sat graveyard in the sky. Looking only at the top 10 "most likely" objects it spat out: Object Lag R2 Beta stderr 90003120 1 0.62257322 3.72639 0.631225 347098 10 0.10329962 -141.788 99.0099 51359 10 0.09839207 -140.988 101.152 248996 10 0.09602214 -184.969 134.511 572368 10 0.09470745 -181.462 132.969 37519 10 0.09338293 -1.13981 0.841731 382255 10 0.09295965 -157.603 116.68 301007 10 0.08901023 -174.445 132.27 16428 10 0.08786504 -176.214 134.563 jupiter 10 0.08760213 -843.691 645.331 (Plots of these things will be at at some point). The "object" column is the catalog number from the Horizons database. There is also jupiter. The cat number as it turns out is not a unique ID. I was warned about this when I first started using the database. The manual tells you to use the "full designation" for each object. But I assumed the "record number", that is often spat out when you do queries about asteroid parameters, was "fairly" constant. Otherwise the queries (you would thing) would always give designations (usually a series of letters and digits) and not cat numbers. But even in the 2-3-4 years I've been using it I have recently noticed cat numbers I used in the past have been "recycled" and now point to totally different objects in the database. So take this warning on board. But in this case I assume the first cab off the rank that somehow explains (the R2 statistic) 62% of the pattern of object growth noted in the plot is the object I think it is when I downloaded its position data a couple years ago. If so. It is a sun-grazer comet. The leading "9" in 8-digit Horizons cat numbers usually means a comet. But there is a lil sommin sommin about *this* comet. It was one of the first to be discovered by the SOHO satellite. As I said it is a sungrazer. It got .001 AU from the sun. When you ask? When it was discovered it was coming into perihelion. 2004. The year ring any bells with anyone? Yes. Something about a carrier group off SoCal running into a bunch of migrating UFO's or something over a period of several days. So even more interestingly. The Beta on the association is +ve. Meaning more "junk" appeared in cislunar orbit the FURTHER AWAY the comet got from earth. Practically in lock-step. A kind of mental model we can think about is this. Something odd came in from the dark and approached the sun. Like oftentimes the thing just suddenly appeared because it was so unremarkable it wasn't bright enough for anyone to spot it until it was right on top of us headed for perihelion. It zipped around the sun in 2004. But, for some reason, as it went on its merry way back out into the outer solar system either large numbers of rocks it had been bringing with it somehow found their way to cislunar orbit, *or* various groups on Earth suddenly found this object so g*ddamn interesting they all launched 100s of satellites to watch it as it went on out to the big dark at the edge of the solar system. The other objects in the top10 list (above) are also interesting. They all have -ve Betas. Meaning as those objects have orbited around the sun for the past 80 years every time they come close more and more things appear in cislunar space. They may be rocks. They may be satellites launched by various nations to watch those asteroids. Or they maybe something totally different. In each case the number of new "whatever" that appear in the Space Force's watch list goes up in lock step with the approach distance beyond chance a statistical fluke. As usual, my stats programs make sure all patterns match up statistically close by 2 tests -- a T-test on the Beta and a Rank test on the ordering of the distances from the relevant objects to earth against the change in number of cislunar "rocks". Both must be beyond 90% confidence NOT just due to chance. And now we come to Jupiter. This is really the only object on the list we might have expected beforehand. We notice the Beta is much larger (albeit -ve) than the others. It is responsible for "more objects" accumulating in earth and cislunar orbit than the other things. Makes sense. Jupiter shoves asteroids around and can dislodge them from one or other asteroid belts (there are a few of them :) and send those objects in slightly or totally new directions. It is pretty much expected that Jupiter SHOULD have something to do with many of the rocks we see coming toward earth. Unusually it seems to also have something to do with rocks that head toward earth then settle down into nearby orbits. Oh well. If you read the report and look carefully at the spaces between the lines you get the impression they are all over this so there is nothing to worry about. -- "Nothing in life is to be feared, it is only to be understood. Now is the time to understand more, so that we may fear less." - Marie Curie "The American public has a right to learn about technologies of unknown origins, non-human intelligence, and unexplainable phenomena." - Senate Majority Leader Charles Schumer, Nov 2023 But what is true and I'm actually being serious here, is there are, there's footage and records of objects in the skies that we don't know exactly what they are, We can't explain how they moved, their trajectory. They did not have an easily explainable pattern. -- Pres Barack Obama, "The Late Show", 2021 "I think some of the phenomena we're going to be seeing continues to be unexplained and might, in fact, be some type of phenomenon that is the result of something that we don't yet understand." --Ex-CIA Director John Brennan "[F]or the few cases in all domains--space, air, and sea--that do demonstrate potentially anomalous characteristics, AARO exists to help the DOD, IC, and interagency resolve those anomalous cases. In doing so, AARO is approaching these cases with the highest level of objectivity and analytic rigor. This includes physically testing and employing modeling and simulation to validate our analyses and underlying theories, and peer-reviewing those results within the U.S. government, industry partners, and appropriately cleared academic institutions before reaching any conclusions." -- Dr Sean Kirkpatrick, Senate Hearings on UFOs, 19 Apr 2023. Lawmakers face pushback on UFO disclosure effort NewsNation, 30 Nov 2023 20:59Z Interest in UFOs surged after whistleblower David Grusch said the Pentagon is operating a secret UFO retrieval program that even Congress doesn' ... [A growing list of mainstream media is pointing out a small group of Republicans are trying to block efforts to disclose what the US knows about UFO's. While Hanks at The Debrief admits it isn't clear why one group of Rep's are pushing FOR disclosure and another growing group is trying to block the relevant Bill(s), they point out key members of the "block" group have received large amounts of campaign funding from aerospace companies that might be in possession of "materials". They are also based closed to suspected USAF bases that have historically been linked with reverse-engineering recovered machinery and "guesting" their purported crews]. UFO transparency bill is poorly drafted : Rep. Turner YouTube, 30 Nov 2023 14:05Z says no one from the "pro-alien caucus" has talked to him about the pushback ... UFO disclosure amendment facing pushback | Vargas Reports. 'We're done with the cover-up': UFO claims to get their day in Congress The Guardian, 21 July 2023 Tim Burchett, the Republican congressman from Tennessee who is co-leading the UFO investigation, declared in early July that alien craft possess ...